I put snow tires on my R32 back in 2004 and it was a complete beast. “VW hasn’t had one new styling idea in 40 years.’, …and judging by the styling on the latest Mustang, Ford beats that record by about 13 years…. But 1000 albums worth of music in V0 or 320 is probably only 128 gigs or so. And it feels faster and nimbler than the numbers would have you believe. What about AWD for snow? Like other cars in this class, especially hatchbacks, road noise becomes an issue at highway speeds. We'll help you find great deals among the millions of vehicles available nationwide on CarGurus, and we'll provide you with dealer reviews and vehicle history for each one. GM can’t give away Camaro’s. I purchased the 2017 Buick Envission from the Audi Nashville dealership. I’m just not sure the added expense and complexity of the DSG is worth the increased price. Crawling in stop-and-go traffic is not the DSG’s strong suit, although this one seems more composed than others I’ve driven. Plus, you can drop those rear seats and enjoy 53 cubic feet of storage—more than enough for all your groceries, a college move, some furniture shopping, replacement wheels for your time at the track, or a couple of large dogs. Who uses CDs in the car anymore, it has an SD Card slot that will read at least a 256GB card? The people at Florida Fine Cars, especially Vlad, we’re a great help on getting my first truck ever!!! Front ¾ vehicle photos © 1986-2018 Autodata, Inc. dba Chrome Data. On top of all that, it’ll comfortably sit 4 adults and haul around 53 cubic feet of your stuff, although not at the same time. – Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, check (Car Net as well, can’t find the monthly $$ on the site) R accelerates eagerly, Volvo lazily. – no wing, check I test drove a 6MT GTI (sans PP/LSD) and half throttle out of a gentle corner and I was already lighting up the inside front tire. Thanks for clarifying. This is something I first experienced instructing a student in an R32 at Grattan Raceway quite a few years ago. They were great to work with. Are you seeing many on the streets in Canada? Description:  Used 2017 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD with DCC and Navigation for sale - $31,996 - 19,898 miles with Leather Seats, Navigation System, Adaptive Cruise Control, Alloy Wheels, Bluetooth, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitoring, Heated Seats. It reminded me of my 04 Jetta wagon 1.8T as soon as a got inside and once I began driving it. I’m sure the TTS is a hoot in the same way the R is, but when I want outright fun, I want RWD. Keep it reasonable, and you’re in the low-to-mid $40K range. What I wonder is how many A4 shoppers wonder over to V.W. If you’re driving anything that even suggests a sport intention with regard to the suspension, that can mean a torturous experience as you slam over broken pavement and potholes. My sons are growing quickly, they don’t really fit in the back of the Fiat or Mustang well. You can barely tell on my $20k home system if you aren’t listening carefully. If you continue to use this site, you consent to this use of cookies. I was, however, mystified by the non-opening center console. But I suppose we should be thankful it’s available. The display on the dash is just that – the display hardware only, while everything else is in that unit inside the top area of the glove box. Nonetheless, I have everything ripped into 256k AAC format and managed via iTunes. I was in New England for a week this summer and saw Rs *everywhere*. Standard front and rear parking sensors, lane-departure warning and intervention, and auto high beams aim to up the value for this performance Volkswagen, but are the extra goodies worth its elevated price? Description:  Used 2018 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD with DCC and Navigation for sale - $32,995 - 18,034 miles with Leather Seats, Driver Assistance Package, Navigation System, Adaptive Cruise Control, Alloy Wheels, Bluetooth, Adaptive Suspension, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitoring, Parking Sensors, Heated Seats. I’d sooner look at a bare-bones ’17 A4 with sport package (CPO if necessary). 1000+ albums, about 800-ish on CD? TONY SWAN. Description:  Used 2016 Volkswagen Golf R for sale - $24,000 - 46,222 miles with Leather Seats, Alloy Wheels, Bluetooth, Backup Camera, Heated Seats. A WRX STI used to fit the bill nicely, but there’s no hatch option anymore. The Audi is only 300 lbs. I could not reach pedals with the seat adjusted to his preference. I will buy from them again!! Beyond that, this is still $40k for a Golf. After owning a grip of 2-seaters, the Golf is my first-ever 4 door car. The difference as far as I could tell was that the Audi has automatic climate control, and maybe better stock tires. Same for my current Golf: the top end $31k trim Golf got me feeling that I’d got a base Audi for ten thousand dollars less. That said, I’d still prefer the manual. Yes, all-wheel drive adds pounds. With the DSG dual-clutch transmission, it’s almost shocking how quickly shifts come and how much it’ll improve your time. Has anyone else found this issue in their R? Ford F-150 Transmission Lawsuit Dismissed, read stories from drivers who praise our work. Remove two bolts and the center console lid will open and close but you’ll want to zip tie the adjuster fingers so you don’t have to slam it to close it. Car was prepared when we arrived. But it’s hard to find this sort of tech and performance for the same price elsewhere. I have about 280 albums on a $20 SD card (64gb) in my R, and it’s a perfect solution – you can’t tell the audio quality from a CD in the car environment with the middling quality of the Fender system components, so screwing around with FLAC is a non-issue IMHO, and the convenience of having every single track you own, always at your disposal and easily accessible, is fantastic. If not for that, I would be all over the Honda. Sales person Demetrice Wilson did a excellent job . They answered all of my questions and provided the documentation, I requested promptly. The review comes off as pretty spot-on based on my year’s experience with mine. Car is good, we like it a lot. My brother can carry a full set of track wheels plus various track tools with the rear seats folded down. The magnet will hold securely just about any phone – 6S won’t even budge when hustling through corners. I like the Clark plaid on a heritage note, but I prefer leather.) To visited the dealer and I can take a luck about the car I was looking for ! Until it passes you on the track. As are most of my coat pockets etc. Perhaps this car’s biggest strength is also its biggest flaw. And the brakes—oh lordy, the brakes! Price is where it gets sticky. Although they were busy ( we understand that) we felt totally ignored. About the flashiest thing you can do with a North American factory spec R is to get the Lapiz Blue paint (personal favorite). Do you wear stilts for driving? Nope, the B5 has been gone for 3 years now. Prompt service with plenty of cars to test drive. I’d think the TTS would be a huge disappointment coming from an E46 M3. 112 Great Deals out of 4,137 listings starting at, 12 Great Deals out of 516 listings starting at, 69 Great Deals out of 2,427 listings starting at, 7 Great Deals out of 244 listings starting at, 3 Great Deals out of 87 listings starting at. Which would be (mostly) a bargain, if not for that pesky Type R being priced at under $35K, including fees. Also, the park brake in Golf/GTI engages primary brake pads – so it can actually be used to stop the car (or play) without the need to replace them right after that. Granted, the two cars may indeed drive very differently, but would they really? Great deal. 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This isn’t the class of vehicle I’d be interested in, but I DO like the idea of having a performance trim vehicle that looks and rides pretty much the same as a more base model. Whether in daily driving or when driving hard, it’s pleasant to work with, and the clutch has good takeup and feel without wearing out your legs. The door pockets are huge, BTW. But all of this ignores the best parts of the Golf R: its chassis and suspension. “…when I could pickup a new A4 Sport for around $44 or an S3 for about the same cash.”. ROFLMAO – yeah, right. The Chevy dealer is offering roughly the same off Camaro’s. Is a GTI worth it over a Golf? The blend of power—particularly the torque curve, which approximates the flat topography of Nebraska—and agility, plus all-wheel-drive grip and outstanding braking make this hottest of Golfs easy to drive fast. In addition to eager responses and ample power, it’s also very forgiving. A car like this is just aching for some human control, and the extra fun that’s to be squeezed out of the R with a stick should certainly be experienced. Compare it back to back with the GTI Performance and the R does feel like it has an edge up on it, I just don’t know if I’d be willing to drop that much change on a Golf when I could pickup a new A4 Sport for around $44 or an S3 for about the same cash. Not quite as quick as the R but feels really good to drive and looks great. I assume the AWD is the appeal– GTIs are far more common here in more temperate climes. Our previous JGC was really good about road noise, especially at highway speeds, but the new one takes it to a different level. The 2017 Volkswagen Golf R has 12 problems & defects reported by Golf R owners. Yes, I know the S3 is DSG only and I know the A4 is in a different class entirely, but if I can afford $40, then I’d probably stretch a few more bucks for more comfort, reliability (don’t laugh) and a longer warranty. I will not talk about size and interior etc, both are very similar, only about how they drive. Those of us do like it are few and far between, wearing our scarlet “H” in public. The STI starts at a few hundred bucks more than the Golf R, and fees add on about another $1,000. To me, the Golf stereotype is the kinda granola family, the 50something professor in a tweed coat, that kind of thing. I didn’t notice the stock tires being any louder than my PSS in the few hours I had them on the car, though. I presume it would have fit my ’15 Golf SportWagen TDI as well, but the ’15 Golfs had a much worse radio that did not do CarPlay, so I figured there was no point. VW Golf R–Tailored, cashmere/wool blend expensive suit. That said, the IIHS gave the Golf R poor marks for its headlight visibility to the sides, especially around corners. Golf R or Subie win cause they are AWD which means CHP/Caltrans will not require chains when snowy on 80 or 50. I had a Rabbit. Good thing all VW come with cavernous door pockets. Very helpful. I didn’t want a “lesser” GTI, as good as they are, for that reason. It seems solid, the 1.8 has plenty of power and it drives in a way I expect from a German car (made in Mexico). The GTI depreciates like a German car while the R holds its value ridiculously well. They might lose their way here or there, but it’s a fairly solid core product and on a worldwide scale. Here in the SF Bay Area I see an R (other than my own) only once every week or so. And for most buyers, that’s fine, even preferable. Get answers and make your voice heard! It has a pleasing exhaust note and a sport-oriented drive mode. It’s not much slower, has the same big brakes, a trick LSD, and even better seats since they aren’t leather, for $10K less. I find this combination of practicality and performance VERY appealing. In short, it really did check all the boxes for me…plus, a manual transmission. Description:  Used 2016 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD for sale - $25,937 - 62,850 miles with Leather Seats, Alloy Wheels, Bluetooth, Backup Camera, Heated Seats, Amazing customer service! Not compared to the website and what’s really out there right now. Honda Civic Type R-A lime green polyester leisure suit. Great, even. But looks aren’t everything. I’m not even sure what would go there if you had “more options” like they have in Europe. Considering the Golf R on the whole, it’s probably the best of the bunch for all-around duty. We aren’t disclosing those the way we do with travel to events since we think most of you in the B and B are aware of how press loans are provided to the staff. I know anecdotes don’t matter that much, but I see the R pretty frequently — there are at least 5 “regulars” I see around town. That said, it is a LOT more money than the GTIs which are fairly heavily discounted. A V8 Camaro for around $30k? That number was very impressive for $40k up until very recently. It depends on where you live. But performance is the key here, and this Golf raises its quickness and athletic competence to an all-time high. First time I went there was not so good. The fact that it looks, drives and feels just like a normal Golf makes it fine for daily driver as well as track duty. It’s more than an even trade for the time you gain on the sprint to 60 with the DSG. With summer tires, the R will come to a stop from 60 mph in just over 100 feet. I’ve never ridden in the 2nd row but Golf is certainly not lacking space in the front row. But maybe next time, after getting some stuff done to the house and putting some more in the retirement fund/kids funds. Not much faster than a GTI for significantly more money. I looked at a Kia Forte SX. 2017 Volkswagen Golf R: 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder (292 horsepower @ 5,400 rpm; 280 lb-ft @ 1,800 rpm) Six-speed manual, all-wheel drive We don't sell/share your email. The R is pretty much the definition of a sleeper as only VWvortex members can tell the difference. I can have Google maps/Waze on the phone while the dash unit is doing its carplay magic. And I’m about to make it. For another all-wheel-drive (AWD) hot hatch, the Focus RS is pretty much your only option—though that’s more track-focused and calls much more attention to itself in boy-racer style. Anyone who’s gone hunting for their perfect road knows that even when they’re not few, they’re often still far between. For 15K less. My ’16 GTI is an S-Class in comparison. Ended up purchasing this vehicle. Just go to mk7 site and you’ll know how. She was very nice and friendly thanks!! The complaints are organized into groups with data published by vehicle, vehicle component, and specific problem. Same Fender stereo with CarPlay and Android Auto. Plus, if you’re over 30 and drive a hatchback, IMO you look like/are a dork. If you want a sunroof, sorry, you can’t get one. You may be able to find more information about this and similar content at piano.io, Tested: 2021 Chevy Suburban Is a Familiar Brute, Tested: RS6 Avant Is About More than Numbers, Tested: Accord Hybrid Polishes a Winning Formula, Tested: SQ8 Drives like Discount Lamborghini Urus, Tested: E450 All-Terrain Disguises a Wagon, Tested: Crosstrek 2.5L Could Use Even More Power, Tested: Mercedes E450 Sedan Grows Sweeter, Tested: 2021 AMG E63 S Wagon Simply Hauls, Tested: Lexus IS350 Deserves a Better Engine, Tested: Highlander Hybrid Is a Three-Row Prius. What’s New: Introduced in 2015, the newest Golf R rolls into 2017 with a few changes. The $40K+ price tag is surely part of the reason it’s so rare. Can’t cost that much….seems silly. The Golf R gives VW hot-hatchback parity with the Ford Focus RS and a formidable weapon against the soon-to-arrive Honda Civic Type R. The structure is exceptionally rigid, something the R shares with the rest of the family. Civic Type-R without added dealer greed? Not as good, of course, but more than sufficient. The cars do feel very different, for very obvious reasons, but the A4 with sport package is very good indeed – almost “grown up GTI” – but less playful. I know, boo hiss about grey being boring, but the limestone grey Rs with 19s look really sharp. It now comes with all the features you’d expect from a luxury entrant: parking sensors front & rear, forward collision warning & intervention, blind-spot monitoring with rear cross-traffic, lane-departure warning, adaptive cruise, and even auto high beams. Find your perfect car with Edmunds expert reviews, car comparisons, and pricing tools. I’m pushing 40 with a couple kids and I don’t think I’d be caught dead (by my wife, in the school carpool line, by my boss, etc) in any of the other 3 competitors, at least not without a lot of judgmental glances and/or comments about my manbits. Description:  Used 2018 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD for sale - $35,998 - 17,954 miles with Navigation System, Bluetooth, Adaptive Suspension, Backup Camera, Heated Seats, Transmission:  7-Speed Dual Clutch, Color:  Deep Black Pearl Metallic. Prices include $820 destination charge in the United States and $1,745 for freight, PDI, and A/C tax in Canada and, because of cross-border equipment differences, can’t be directly compared. A decent price, although VW could stand to offer certain features, such as a sunroof. They got it right in the first place. If the Type R was stickered the same as its three main competitors – the Ford Focus RS, Subaru WRX STI, and Volkswagen Golf R – would it still be “all that?”. On its own merits, sure. Trust me, once you used it there, there’s no going back. Check out our Volkswagen Golf R overview to see the most problematic years, worst problems and most recently reported complaints with the Golf R. We're actively collecting data on the worst problems for the Volkswagen Golf R. If you've had a problem, please help us out and report it. But then, I’m a BMW guy at heart. Good service ! Invisibility + performance = awesome. My brother has one that sees plenty of track time. Me too one of those people. I’m one of those crazy people that holds a long grudge when the company has been through a pretty major scandal. Convenience features are pretty standard, too – heated front seats, satellite radio, USB, Bluetooth, navigation, and smartphone integration are the highlights here. Nick! In sport mode R holds gear to the red line even if the gas pedal is not all the way down, Volvo doesn’t. I will personally be taking delivery of a Night Blue Golf Wolfsburg this week. You forgot the cubby to the left of the steering wheel on the bottom of the dash. I wouldn’t buy one because it looks like the $22k Golf my neighbor has down the street. None of the R’s have the under-seat tray on the passenger side – the Fender amp is there. Crap. Like you I don’t carry much of anything for myself. Those seats, that sound…there are just so many intangibles about the old VR6 models that make it greater than the sum of its parts, totally agree. But the Golf won me over with its overall competency. My boss has a ’16 Golf R. Five of us went to lunch a month or so ago and fit quite comfortably. Comparison between the appearance of the VW Golf R and Honda Civic Type R: 99% percent of non-car loving humans will consider a TT a hatchback, for the record. LOL. And there’s always the tuners if I decide to spice it up a bit. Yeah, I liked the Type R. A lot. And yes, the (front-drive) GTI is less than 300 pounds lighter. CDs aren’t perfect, but they sound better than MP3 files do. CarComplaints.com ® is an online automotive complaint resource that uses graphs to show automotive defect patterns, based on complaint data submitted by visitors to the site. 2017 Volkswagen Golf R. It plays on a higher level. Unsubscribe any time. California consumers may exercise their CCPA rights here. I came from an ’06 A3 which, even with new 17″ tires and new bearings was a loud MF’er on the highway. I recommend this dealership. The 2017 comes in at slightly more HP and 280 torque. The new A4’s driving dynamics are *very good* and the car (especially in Prestige trim with the acoustic glass) is virtually silent. Sure, there’s a spoiler and other aerodynamic doo-dads, but it’s unclear from the press materials how much of their presence is meant to assist performance, and how much is meant purely for styling. Then I get a text on Tuesday that the car was sold on Saturday. At least I could smoke the tires after I cut the grass on Saturdays. Real world price: R $46K no discount, Polestar $63K with 8K discount all prices in CAD. Example: "Bad Brakes", "Toyota Recall", etc. See good deals, great deals and more on Used 2017 Volkswagen Golf R. Search from 62 Used Volkswagen Golf R cars for sale, including a 2017 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door and a Certified 2017 Volkswagen Golf R … With the addition of the Driver Assistance Package as standard, the Golf R is more technologically equipped than ever before. I did buy this car and was a good experience, Description:  Used 2017 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD with DCC and Navigation for sale - $32,488 - 18,772 miles with Leather Seats, Driver Assistance Package, Navigation System, Adaptive Cruise Control, Alloy Wheels, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitoring, Heated Seats, Best car buying experience ever joe was awesome as well as anthony. Same leather and brakes.Also the electronic diff with 300lbs less weight. One can probably get used to it quickly but coming from R where the shifts are almost imperceptible when the gas pedal is floored, it’s very noticeable. Outside of badging, wheels, four exhaust outlets with chrome pipes, rear spoiler and a low ride height – lower than both the base Golf and the mid-performance GTI – there’s not much to obviously differentiate the car from “lesser” Golfs. And 300lb is a lot – at this point AWD A4 is likely 600lb heavier than GTI. The full suite of safety systems, including the features in the now-standard Driver Assistance Package, contribute to it being a Top Safety Pick from the independent Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). Headroom is generous up front and fair in back. On the contrary, after exiting the GTI I immediately started the negotiation process. One of the reasons I went with the Golf R is you can put a spare tire kit together since the rest of the world gets space saver and jack. Highly recommended. Braking is close to sports-car levels, and power from the 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder is abundant, peaking at 292 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque. It’s perhaps less track-oriented than the rest, but as noted, most buyers aren’t going to care. Not to mention that the Honda’s looks are, well, controversial. Regarding the cupholders – I’d rather have them in front of the shifter. I don’t get why more folks don’t see that, but Volks now has a brown patina on everything they do, for many. In the real world this car is probably the best part of $10K cheaper than a Type-R right now. 2017 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD with DCC and Navigation Description: Used 2017 Volkswagen Golf R 4-Door AWD with DCC and Navigation for sale - $32,698 - 18,772 miles with Leather Seats, Driver Assistance Package, Navigation System, Adaptive Cruise Control, Alloy Wheels, Backup Camera, Blind Spot Monitoring, Heated Seats Clean car! After all, over 30 million shoppers use CarGurus to find great deals on used cars and new cars in their area. What We Like: It requires more resistance than we possess to be indifferent to a car with the Golf R’s performance résumé. The leather surfaces look and feel good and the power driver’s seat makes getting settled easy. Sara who’s working there call me right away to set up appointment! Shorter-wheelbase cars tend to have it fore of the shoulder, which is generally less desirable for visibility. Mine is mounted in plain GTI (left one in Golf for new owner). As for the upgraded brakes, I noticed no issues (though I also had no chance to really fully challenge them). The fact the sticker price of the Golf R is 10k cheaper than the sticker price on the Focus RS explains why you never see Focus RSes in Canada. Ended up with a GTI SE manual for a hair under 27K. The salesman didn’t even have the courtesy to give me a call to explain what happened. You’ll live in all that torque until the turbo really spools, greeting you with explosive acceleration past 4,000 rpm and a whole chorus of sound and fury up to its 6,200-rpm redline. I’m sure the LSD helps a ton, but ultimately, FWD cars are just so grip-limited. In “base” configuration with the standard suspension, the R is more car than most people can reliably handle on public roads. 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